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I have been surprised on a tour of Northern Europe at the number of No Response hosts. Even the response ratings on the site are not a good guide, and all those folk clutter up the map. Why not take them off the map? All they do is impress how big Warmshowers is and waste the time of travellers. For the record, I host for 11 months f the year, and only travel for 2-3 weeks.

It is not difficult to respond.

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Agree. I think it is pretty

Agree. I think it is pretty rude really. Courtesy & caring for each other is a nice thing.

Have started leaving feedback in these cases now, mostly neutral just stating that they did not respond. In one case negative because they did not respond and removed themselves from the list without the courtesy of letting us know.

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There are problems with the

There are problems with the site. The app does not work anymore, so hosts do not get notifications in their mobile. There have been problems with the server, some emails were sent with delays. Hosts may not read their emails.

So blame the organization first. And the leadership is not a paragon of responsiveness if you look at some threads here. 

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no responses only a problem with the site?

Disagree.

I'm aware that there are issues with the site.

In most cases recently I texted the hosts using their mobile phone numbers. Some hosts were great and responded quickly, even rang back. Most didn't respond (a bit more than 2 thirds no response)

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Frankly, I'm boggled at this attitude.

Frankly, I'm boggled at this attitude. While I, too, would prefer prompt replies to inquiries, there are any number of reasons why they may not be forthcoming, and a lack of a reply is, in its own way, an answer for you, as is the person removing themselves from the list. They themselves may be travelling, and with limited ability to navigate the site, especially in its current state.

To treat potential hosts in this way has nothing to do with promoting a cycle of courtesy & caring, in fact quite the opposite. It is likely to remove them from the pool. I myself, as a host, would feel uncomfortable offering hospitality to someone so apparently quick to take affront, fearing that they would do so while being hosted.

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Frankly, I'm boggled at this attitude.

Don, you've made some valid comments here however as a WS member who has only ever hosted (I'm looking forward to being a guest maybe sometime next year) the most common complaint I hear from my own guests is the lack of response from potential hosts. It may be that they are travelling or have valid reasons why they have not responded so my suggestions is that members must maintain a level of responsiveness above a certain threshold to be considered as 'active' members. To avoid deactivating members too quickly, they could be given a reasonable length of time to post a reply. How does that sound?

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I believe WS is having problems with passing on requests.  I have taken to contacting a second time and by text.  Many say they didn't receive the first.

 

 

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Responding

Jack, there can be a problem/delay when responding to a request through the email notification.  It's best to respond to the message via the WS site.  I have used the site on a recent tour and I have been hosting; both without any difficulties.  You just have to work around the temptation to want to respond vith the notification email.

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No response -yes it's pity !

Hi jeremy cooper,pl message me if you are near Frankfurt am Main,I would like to invite you.Sarasbinjola

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I am part extrovert, require additional tame adventure, and desire to fully experience my country.  This is satisfied by bike touring and therefore I appreciate the hospitality, camaraderie and what I may learn from each host.  My feeling is that cheap motels and campgrounds are fine but they provide little social or cultural value: one is only passing through without making human contact.  Residents are civilized reflections of an area and the real reason one is traveling. We grow through interaction, not through isolation.  My approach is unique.  Each summer for the past eight I pedaled a USA tour that averaged over 4,000 miles and pre-planned my stops months ahead of time by distance, allowing for one night per week buffer.  I almost never give brief lead times when making a request.  It's uncomfortable.  Retired, one may have an at-home schedule that can allow for all that planning.  In each of my requests there are website and Facebook page addresses included to provide plenty of personal info to answer concerns and to increase familiarization.  I have sent out host requests by the hundreds and kept track of them by organizing their info on spreadsheets.  This gives all potential hosts plenty of time to respond and also leaves room for me to seek alternatives.  I use a form letter, not because I'm lazy, but to be sure not to leave anything out.  The form letter is personalized and adjusted to fit each request.  This has improved over time.  I use both WS and Couchsurfing.  I don't have a figure for positive/negative answers but I do know my response rates to be near 61 percent for Warmshowers and 28% for Couchsurfing.  (It's not apples for apples because many of the Couchsurfers are very young and either use the organization as a social media site or as a place to look for free places to stay during their wanderings.  Most do not host.)  Alternatively, I contact town offices and Firehouses for tenting space and a shower through Facebook and get an 80% reponse.  Who knew?  If I don't get a response from a potential host, I wait a week and always send a reminder.  I know I myself will sometimes plan to respond to an email later and totally blow it off.  ...I have no clue as to why people do what they do.  One might feel politeness always dictates a response.  Before getting annoyed, just remember that some people's lives may be in temporary chaos.  When we request a host, we are asking a lot, and anything can get in the way of them responding and inviting you into their home.   Grama took the bedroom, a flood, girlfriend threw them out of the house, the wifi was down, floors are being refinished, and/or they are still recovering from Hillary's loss.  I've stayed with so many people and made long term friendships with most, but host feedback is still a discouraging 25%.  In closing, be grateful we have an organization that provides this type of openness, hospitality and opportunity.  If I didn't have so many congenial hosts, life would be so boring and I wouldn't enjoy bike tours nearly as much.

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Met great hosts in France

Yup there are issues with people not responsive cluttering the map. Its attitude but also technic. But also as above stated peoples life changing and they are unaware of being checked as available on Warmshowers.
On our recent trip to West France we were very lucky and have a responce rate of aproximately 35-40 procent and found an very nice host every week for five weeks on a row. Thank to all of them! 

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I agree

Jeremy,

As someone who hosts year round and has hosted over 200 cyclists (and has responded to routing info for several others), I am also frustrated by the lack of response.  I am also frustrated by the lack of willingness for those who do host/travel to not take the time to leave feedback.

Truth is, this service is free.  Most of the 130,000+ members have never given a donation (only a small percentage of WS users donate and financially support the organization).  When a person is not invested financially in something, interest quickly wears off.  I used to work for a community mental health clinic.  People could be seen for free.  We often saw people not return after their initial intake appointment.  Once we started charging $25 for the intake, we saw a much higher return rate.  People had "skin in the game" and followed through.

I understand that not everyone in WS is as invested or responsive as I am. Nor have they put the thousands of volunteer hours I have put in over the last 6 years.  This is not AirBnB; no reservation and no charge.  I keep my expectation level to a minimum and am thankful when I am touring and find a responsive host.  Having traveled for 30 years without WS, I know there are many other means for finding shelter each night.  WS is just an adjunct to any of my tours.  The WS experiences may flavor my tours, but they don't make the backbone of the tour.  I enjoy my tour whether or not I get a host's response...just as if I knock on a farmhouse door and get no response, I travel down to the next one...

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Responses

I think where we live (near GNP, Kalispell, MT) service can be spotty to non-existent so with that in mind, I try to respond ASAP via email and the WS site.  Usually I will give a cell phone number  if I can host and texts work best.  It's hard sometimes to keep a schedule and so short notice requests are common so try to be flexible.  I make a point to respond either way no matter how late because you never know when you may be rescuing someone from bad weather or a bad day and they just need a little WS TLC.