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no response from any of my warmshower contacts

Hi,

I have made a bike tour through spain, and contacted on my route some warmshowers with a request to stay a night, but havn't got any answer.

Is that normal, that people don't answer?

or did I something wrong?

Thanks for a reply.

Best regards

Rainer

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Hosts may not have gotten the

Hosts may not have gotten the message. Or they may have noticed it too late. Did you select hosts with a decent response rate? Did they log in after your message?

If one does not get an answer, it may help to send a follow-up message by SMS, telling them that you just sent them a WS message. Did you try that?

I see that your profile is multilingual, but it looks like just one single blob of text, and the Spanish text is at the end. I would suggest separator lines, and to put Spanish first when in Spain.

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how can I send a SMS, I have no phone nr?

how can I send a SMS, I have no phone nr?

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Many hosts put their phone

Many hosts put their phone number on their profile page. Unfortunately, it is hard to find on a mobile display of the web page, it is a looong way down, below the feedback.

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I think the following are important:

1.  Have a profile photo that shows mainly your face.  Hosts want to know how you look.

2. Have a profile that suggests you know how to be a good guest.   Talk about enjoying meeting people and how WS makes travel more interesting.  Put your own slant on it.

3. If you are on a big trip, include information on that in your profile.  If your trip is not described in your profile, then tell hosts about in when you contact them.

4.  When you write asking, be sure to confirm that you will arrive and leave by bike (some guests think it's not necessary).  It's not a bad idea to say where you will be coming from and going to.

5.  When you are unavailable, update your profile to say that.  You may have written to people who like you are on tour but have not shown that on their profile.

6.  Think about language.  Make sure your messages and profile are in a language that will be easily understood by the hosts you contact.

7.  When you stay with people, be a good guest.  Conversation, (helping with) cooking, asking about them, minimise disruption, etc.  It's good to have a gift of some kind.  I like tea towels from my home country, as people actually use them.

8.  In general, remember that this is not a system of free hotels.  You have to work to make yourself as pleasant a guest as possible.

Of course, you probably know most of this.

Happy travels by bike.

Edward

 

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Edward, you bring up several good points!

Great list of "guidelines" for users!

1. Profile Pic: I won't host anyone who doesn't have a profile pic.  There is NO reason in 2019 not to have one.

2.  Suggest you know how to be a good guest: This shows you have a sense of respect and gratitude! 

3.  Discuss route/trip:  This says a lot about who you are!  "I am traveling Vancouver to Mexico and there is no where to camp in your area" says much to me.

4.  Arrival and departure:  Be clear with your communication.  Lots can happen on a bike to slow you down.  With WiFi access so readily available in my area (Starbucks, McDonald's), its rude when guests don't inform me of delays.  And I am clear with my guests about the time they need to clear out in the morning.  And I HATE it when I have to hurry them along because they are disrespecting my timeframe.

5.   Keep profile current: This is a MUST if you are on a busy route.

6.  Language: If you have access to WiFi, you should also have access to a translation app if necessary.

7/8.  Be a good guest: WS may be about a shower and a place to camp, but it usually includes interaction with hosts on a spectrum of levels.  If you are not wanting to socialize, stealth camping or a hotel might be a more appropriate way to spend your evening.  Not all hosts and guests are a match, all the more reason to be clear in your profile and messaging as well as in feedback.

Ken

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No response

Unfortunately many (most) don't respond anymore. We're in Europe for a 2nd year in a row and last year only one person responded. 2 months late.

We always contact 2-3 weeks before, have a photo, have taken in many people over the years, log in regularly, and have been in WS over 10 years. Sadly its not what it used to be.

We also got a reply from someone 6 months later as they never got a notice in their Email box that we tried to contact them.

No wwith the app not working . And as you said SMS or phone. really? Most of us don't have a phone while travelling.

 

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"Most of us don't have a

"Most of us don't have a phone while travelling."

The vast majority of guests I have had, regardless of what country they originally came from, had a phone. They bought a SIM card somewhere along the way during their tour. Now, there are no roaming charges across the European Union, so a tourer on a long European tour can buy a SIM in the first country and continue using it to message hosts all through the subsequent countries.

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Declining response rate?

I have been using WS for 6 years and I don't think there has been a decline in the response rate.  I think this was true even when the apps were working.  I think response rate has typically been poor in most large cities, and higher in other areas. Looking at a host's response rate is a good indicator whether they will respond or not.  

I have hosted over 200 guests and ALL of them had a phone, tablet, or even laptop with them.  That's how WS works.  The few cyclists I have met while touring who do not travel with a means to connect to the internet simply do not use WS (and note, the 2 people I met who were traveling without connection, contacted me a year later that they joined WS and now host in the Netherlands!).

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Real data on response rate?

Ken Francis wrote: "I don't think there has been a decline in the response rate.  I think this was true even when the apps were working."

Some data would be nice. They should be available, how else could the organization take decisions without data? 

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Non-responsiveness has tripled

Five years ago only 13 % of new threads did not get an answer, now it is three times as high (source). I cannot imagine that such numbers are not being discussed by the Board.

Such a difference is clearly noticeable. It explains why so many cyclists are complaining on this forum.

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thanks for your comments. I think it's not what I looked for. I will logg out! sorry!

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Hi Rainer,

Hi Rainer,

I think that regardless of how you contact the hosts there is a big difference in success rates connecting guests with hosts in North America and the rest of the world. We didnot completely give up on WS but did not bother contacting anyone unless they had several good reviews and a high response rate. In the US and Canada WS works great, even with the apps not working we still get many guests this year.

 

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Hi Rainer,

Hi Rainer,

I think that regardless of how you contact the hosts there is a big difference in success rates connecting guests with hosts in North America and the rest of the world. We didnot completely give up on WS but did not bother contacting anyone unless they had several good reviews and a high response rate. In the US and Canada WS works great, even with the apps not working we still get many guests this year.

 

Patrick