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Should long distance walkers be in the same fold as bicycle tourist on Warmshowers.

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Should long distance walkers be in the same fold as bicycle tourist on Warmshowers.

I'm a long haul cyclist and walker - motivated by the spirit of adventurous travel and importantly travel via ones own means from point A to B. During my travels in Australia and abroad I have used warmshowers to meet other like minded people and have welcomed the kind hospitality of a host in far and flung locations. Apart from the means of travel I beleive that its the actual act of travelling distances under ones own steam which bonds us. However as I do a lot of walking tours, and now with the aid of a one wheeled Carrix cart, I feel out of place when ever contacting hosts who are strictly bicyclist.

I believe that walkers should be now included as a part of the warmshowers ethos. Walkers are few and far at this point in time, but long distance walking is on the rise. However to my knowledge there isn't any web site offering community like warmshowers for walkers. It is beyond my means to create a walkers warmshoers site alone and it seems that this would only isolate the walkers from bicyclist. Therefore I anticipate that the Warmshowers community can embrace long distance walkers - not freeloading backpackers who only walk from bus station to hotel!

Think of the great travellers like Patrick Leigh Fermor and Bruce Chatwin who traversed continents on foot and how warmshowers would have been useful for their wary travel.

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you can always ask!

you can always ask!

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Walkers and cyclists

I've done a bit of walking when I was younger and it does have many of the same feelings of freedom when I'm touring by bike. So yes there are some similarities. I suppose its possible to include walkers, but this is fundamentally a group of cyclists. I don't suppose that if someone contacted me and said they were walking on some great adventure that I would say no to them. I loved Bruce Chatwins work, every single word of every single book. So missing him would have been a great loss. Have you sent your request to the site admins?

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There are many walking

There are many walking groups and organisations I think if you contacted them they should be the people to help maybe try showing them the warm showers and couch surfing models for a example I for one would not discount putting up a long distance walker but as
this is a site by cyclists for cyclists I am more inclined to host a fellow cyclist to which I have more in common, I commend you on taking the initiative but why has,nt the ramblers assoiation had this sort of network for there members at home and abroad. I have done alot of walking in the past alone and in groups but since taking up cycling the past 15 years and long distance cycle touring the last 5 years I found cyclist to be much more organised.

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Should long distance walkers be in the same fold as bicycle tour

There are many walkers out there.

Why haven't the Ramblers organised such an initiative? Perhaps us bicyclists are more organised people. However walkers traditionally and mostly take designated paths and trails and usually rely on huts or camping. My methods of travel when walking are a little out of the norm.

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Self-propelled is OK, but mention to hosts

Although Warmshowers is officially for people traveling by bicycle, we don't complain about other self-propelled people. You should mention the fact that you're not arriving by bike though when contacting a host.

-Randy
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Should long distance walkers be in the same fold as bicycle tour

Thanks for your reply Randy

Indeed one should mention the mode of travel. I guess its all up to the hosts' discretion in the end.

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Self-propelled travellers

Interesting idea. I am not much of a walker or runner and strongly prefer self-contained long distance cycling myself. I would be inclined to welcome long distance walkers for exactly the self-propelled ethos you mention.

Having recently read Robyn Davidson's Tracks and previously read several Bruce Chatwin works, I certainly find this type of adventure compelling. I would also add long distance canoeiests to the list for the same reasons (and would recommend James Raffan for reading). (If there is any non-insignificant number of self-propelled aviators out there we can address that when they present themselves. ;-)

However, given that the focus of this network is for touring cyclists, I think it would be best to keep it primarily that way. I have not been particularly impressed by the ethos of some couchsurfing guests don't want to have to justify this point to backpackers who have chosen not to understand the distinction between a backpacker and a long-distance walker. (We've done 3 months of backpacking through China.) The recommendation to raise the idea with rambler or walking tour organizers makes a certain amount of sense.

Being up front about your situation in your communications with potential hosts would be the best approach I would say, because I assume most here would identify the common interest as bicycle touring and not necessarily any self-propelled journey.

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Should long distance walkers be in the same fold as bicycle tour

I guess one gets some idea about the person and their motives if they give some explanation about their adventuring. What annoys me most is some bicyclist who sends me an email saying that they're in town in two days time and need somewhere to spend one night! While at the same time it can be a real pleasant experience when you cross the path of a stranger and there is a mutual trust to just take them in for the night there and then.

Very much enjoyed Robyn Davidson's Tracks - will have to see the film which came out about 12 months ago.

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Ask

All you can do is send a request. A long distance walker would certainly be welcomed at our house. I'm into distance walking too, and hosted a feller who walked across the US. I 'captured' him off the highway. Been friends ever since.

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someone not biking but still self propelling

I have hosted 50 or so guests since I joined up 4 riding seasons ago. All but one have shown up on bicycles. One young man contacted me and said " I am running across the USA , can I stay at your place?" of course I said yes I was anxious to meet this young man.
He had a pace set that was equivalent to a marathon a day and had crossed Ohio at that pace! He got to my place just into Indiana and needed a day of rest. Of course I granted his wish and left him stay a 2nd night.
To me it is a no brainer as a host to extend an invite to a walker, runner, or if I lived along a river, a kayaker. All would be as grateful and wonderful as guests as all of those who have pedaled up.

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Should long distance walkers be in the same fold as bicycle tour

Thanks for your comment.

Can't say that I would ever run across the US, I think walking at a slower pace may be the best way to see it - one would require a long time nonetheless. However the thought of a three level tree house by a lake with the view over two states sounds tempting.

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Should long distance walkers be in the same fold as bicycle tour

Many thanks for all the positive and constructive comments from Warmshowers members. I guess the consensus is that walkers are OK.

During my previous walking tours and to an extent cycling tours spontaneous hospitality has come my way with out really expecting it. This being all part of the adventure and like a pilgrim the way provides for those who are either needy or aren't fussy! In future if I'm on schedule for my long distance walking I won't hesitate to contact fellow cyclists if in their neck of the woods.

Look forward to further comments and opinions concerning this question I'm sure many others would like to get some clarity on.

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No, it should not.

http://about.couchsurfing.com/values/

Why do you prefer WS to staying with CS? CS should be your community to look for others sharing your hobby.

Besides, how can I know , when you are knocking at my door, that you have walked the whole day to find me and not just get off the bus a couple of kilometers from me?

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Thanks for the confirmation

It is exactly this sort of attitude from CS folks that confirms why I'll stick with WS. There is a certain adventuring autonomist integrity that I value in WS folks. I see no need to expanding the community faster than necessary and dilluting these values.

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Should imagine it is up to the hosts but i know there are two other sites for walkers and travellers, couch surfing, and wwwww (women welcome women world wide) which i guess is no good for males but there must be others.

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No!

I host only people who can have flat tires.

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Flat tires

Ok, so someone riding a penny-farthing (usually solid tires) is out, but almost any motor vehicle is fine? ;-)

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I use a Carrix cart when on

I use a Carrix cart when on my long distance walking tours - it fortunately has a solid rubber wheel - therefore its OK!

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As we host on both

As we host on both warmshowers and couchsurfing this would not be a problem for us, but if I would get a couchsurfer-ish request on warmshowers I would decline hosting (even if I would consider it on couchsurfing, strange maybe).

So if you want to long distance walk in Sweden, starting in Stockholm, you would be welcome to stay at our place :)

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As we host on both

As we host on both warmshowers and couchsurfing this would not be a problem for us, but if I would get a couchsurfer-ish request on warmshowers I would decline hosting (even if I would consider it on couchsurfing, strange maybe).

So if you want to long distance walk in Sweden, starting in Stockholm, you would be welcome to stay at our place :)

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Nice to hear your sensible

Nice to hear your sensible response. It is good to know that most warmshowers users are a little broad minded and open to different forms of self propelled travel. Once again it does come down to the host's discretion. I'm off on a 1800 km walk this year from Basque Country to northern Italy and would only hope that a warmshowers host would have the sense to host if I gave them due notice - while the activity in its self may seem mad enough!

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Walkers are welcomed

In respond to cape2cape,

i am not sure about the rest of the WS community. I speak for myself. If any walker or cyclist ever come by SEA particularly East Malaysia, all are most welcomed. Thats my opinion.